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CRY/CRYE  Family News LetterI
Issue 2                                                                                Vol. I
APRIL 1998                                                                    "SPRING"
Anita Green, Editor

In this Issue
Letter from the Editor
Reunion Social Security Death Index  John and Catherine Shimmon Crye On-Line Data  Questionnaire
Letters to the Editor  Links Share Your Thoughts  Queries
Oldest Cryes
Arkansas Illinois Kansas North Carolina South Carolina  Tennessee Wisconsin

Letter from the Editor


    What a great start the year has already given us.   I have been in contact with many over the internet and we have been collecting information from all sources so I could share with you and give you more information that you can fill in areas on your family tree.  Several have written to express their joy in having a newsletter to share information and learn from their heritage.  I have one family from New York that truly isn't a direct line, but a "new" line, which is exciting on its own.

         Let me encourage you to complete the form in the center of this edition, copy it as many times as needed and fill it out with as many families in your line as you can remember.  Without your help this newsletter will dwindle for lack of information and support.  However, with your help, we will survive and become a source of information for all to look toward  in completing their family heritage.

         By the way, when I began this newsletter my family files were very full, but I have found that contacting so many new friends, my research had only scratched the surface.  I am looking  forward to getting a better and more fuller picture of the Crye/Cry family in the South, North, and even out West.

 Thank you, to each of you, again for your encouragement and help in researching our name.
Connecting the Dots  Anita
Reunion Plans

         Several have ask me about the reunion that might be in 1998.  I have tried to  contact those who might have access to this information, but to no avail.  Would it be possible for those of us who want a reunion to pool our resources and plan one? 

        If you are interested, please let me know so we can get plans in order, invitations on the way, and food prepared.  September or July would be a 
wonderful time and if that sounds good to you, let me know.  I  have the mailing list and will be happy to do my part from this end.  Enclosed in this newsletter is a family history page.  If you will fill it out and mail back to me that will help in "connecting   the dots." 



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        The oldest Crye in the World!

Crye, Jennie    9/20/1892      10/15/1985      NY
Crye, Myrtle   12/3/1894       7/15/1987       TN
Crye, Viola    10/9/1898        2/15/1991 
Crye, Mary    12/26/1892     12/15/1984      AL
Crye, Ida       1/9/1881 3/       15/19/72        TN
Crye, Jesse    12/25/1887       5/15/1978      WI
Crye, Helen    9/9/1892          1/15/1983      WI
Crye, Nelle    11/17/1900       1/15/1991 
Crye, Lulu      10/23/1892       9/15/1982     WI
Crye, Helen    1/25/1899       10/22/1988 
Crye, Ollie      8/4/1896         9/15/1984      TN
Crye, Joe        5/12/1879       6/15/1967      GA
Crye, Charlie  9/22/1891        4/15/1979      GA
Crye, Esther   9/28/1902        3/12/1990 


Cryes in Arkansas


   Records located on the "net" give reference to Crye families in Cleburne Co. Ark.  Land records show John Crye, wife Dora, children, Ida, Berdie, Gencie, and Allie.  John was awarded 80 acres August 18, 1890.  A Joseph Crye in Faulkner Co. Ark, received 40 acres 4/14/1897.  No comments about children.

 Siftings from the Morrilton Democrat newspaper, 1929, Arkansas newspaper Index.
 D.T. Crye page 135
 Mrs. D. T. Crye page 135
 Madeline Crye page 91
 Miss Willie Bell Crye page 67, 135
 Willie Bell Crye page 135

 I do not have access to these records, but understand there is a book that this extract is from.  If someone would look these records up, using the page numbers we could possibly have access to another family, or at least one that has been a dead end for some. 
 Your help would be appreciated.



US Census Reports
Cryes in North Carolina 1820-1860


  YEAR                                                             Mecklenberg County                                     Union County
1820 Crye,  John             110101          120201 
Crye,  David            020201          210010 
Crye,  David            110010          13001 
1830 Crye,  David            11001             0021001
Crye,  David            00012101       00210001
Crye,  Mary             00011             00002001
1840 Crye, David              000011001      0012 
Crye, Samuel            000011            10001 
Crye, James             10001               000001 
1850 #171-171 
Crye,     Thomas     age 45
               Mary         age 37
               William      age 41

Crye,       James 
Crye,       Sarah  age 41 
                James  age 35 
                 Lydia A. age 6 

Crye,  James  030
Crye,  Thomas 012
Crye,  William 012


NC page 823 #205
Crye, Thomas  54 born NC
           William 52 born NC 
             Mary   37 born NC 

NC page 866 #533
Hannah, Samuel    61
              Nancy     60
Adams,  David      17
Nancy,   Crye       20 (insane)

NC page 866 #534
Crye,  Samuel 50
   Sally  53
   Ann  16


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{Kansas and Illinois}

HELP!  Census records can help us much and while looking for information on the Family Tree Maker Mortality Schedule 1850-1880 USA, I have found that a Crye family was in Kansas, Doniphan County, in 1870.  John age 76, a farmer died of an aneurism.  In 1860, Whiteside County, Il a young son, age one, died of lung fever.  His name was Colonel Crye.  I don't know what family these belonged to, but I am searching.  If you have a clue let me know.


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 In the last newsletter I printed the following will.  Not knowing if you might have the old copy on hand, I wanted to seek your opinion.  Reading this will, I find at the end it lists the executers.  The very first few names are Sister Sarah and Jacob Ormond.  Would you take this to mean that Sarah was wife of Jacob Ormond?  Would he have listed her as Sarah Crye and Jacob Ormond?

 Samuel Crye.  July 31, 1803, probated in January 1804 Court by Samuel Adams.  Being sick and weak, I give to my sister Sarah half of the land left to me by my father, all my household and kitchen furniture, and my feather bed and furniture, and to my brother John I give my rifle gun and wearing apparel.  It is my will that my two horses, plantation tools, a loom and a table, and all other articles not mentioned, be sold and the proceeds used to pay my debts with any residue going to my sister Sarah.  Exrs: Sister Sarah and Jacob Ormond. Wit: Samuel Adams, John Thompson, and Shared Gray.  Isaac Alexander, CMC.

 Take a close look at the writing and send me your thoughts.  Maybe we should look for Jacob Ormond and a marriage to a Sarah Crye.  Being as it was probated in 1804 no records of wives names appeared until 1850, however we may find a Sarah Ormond in the area.  If you have access to the Census for NC, Mecklenburg County 1810-1850 could someone look this up for me?
 Thank you for your input.


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U.S. Social Security
Death Index

Crye, Bobbie died 1951
Crye, Ernes died  1961
Crye, Charles died   1962
Crye, Dave   died   1964
Crye, William   died   1964
Crye, Horace   died   1965
Crye, Clayton  died   1966
Crye, Emanuel   died   1966
Crye, Johnathan  died   1966
Crye, Dessie   died   1967
Crye, Joe    died   1967
Crye, Donald   died   1969
Crye, Henry   died   1969
Crye, Ira    died   1969
Crye, Sherman   died   1969
Crye, Daisy   died   1970
Crye, Jeffie   died   1970
Crye, Porter   died   1970
Crye, F.    died   1971
Crye, G.    died   1971
Crye, Cas    died   1972
Crye,  Harold   died   1972
Crye Hattie   died   1972
Crye, Ida    died   1972
Crye, Lena   died   1972
Crye, George   died   1973
Crye, Roosevelt  died   1973
Crye, Roy    died   1973
Crye, William   died   1973
Crye, Amanda   died   1974
Crye, Ernest   died   1974
Crye, John   died   1974
Crye, John   died   1974


cont. next issue

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                                                                               [This Feature Continues Through Page 9]

 Last issue we listed the children of John born 1727 IOM and Catherine.  I have received letters and documents stating that her name was Catherine Shimon.  Their children were listed as William, David, John, James, Isabella, Sarah, Catherine, and Margaret.

 Let's take the first son William.
William Crye born ca 1755 m/ Sarah Higgins/Hagan


Children of William and Sarah are

Catron     born    8/27/1780 NC
William Jr   born    5/19/1782 SC
Hugh      born     11/5/1784 GA/TN
Mary      born     12/8/1786 GA/TN
Joseph     born    3/5/1789  GA/TN
Sarah      born     9/12/1791 GA/TN
Harry     born     1/20/1794 GA/TN
John      born    6/18/1796 GA/TN
Isabel      born     8/10/1798 GA/TN
James     born     1/7/1801  GA/TN
David     born     2/5/1803  GA/TN
Jonathan    born     9/7/1806  GA/TN

I have received information from Michael P. Shaver, LaCross WI and he has Joseph being born in 1781 in the Carolinas and marrying "Anna" about 1800. 
 The following are a list of Joseph and Anna's children:
  1) Hewitt born abt 1801, married Penelope Cook, December 15, 1831, Bartholomew, Indiana.
  2) Cintha born about 1802, married Adam Smith, October 2, 1831, Bartholomew, Ind.
  3) Elizabeth, b ca 1802, NC, m/Caleb Bowman, 3/15/1832, Bartholomew Co. Ind. d. WI.
  4) Penelope, b ca 1803, m/ Solomon Stout 6/30/1835, Bartholomew, Ind.
  5) Polly, b ca 1803, m/William Irick 11/10/1840, Bartholomew, Ind.
  6) Nelson, b ca 1804, m/Eliza Jane Raines, 5/22/1845, Bartholomew, Ind.
  7) Mary, b ca 1805, m/John Goss, 10/14/1849, Bartholomew, Ind.
  8) Ephraim, b ca 1806.
  9) John, b ca 1807, NC, d ca 1872, Stanton, Dunn Co. WI.


Notes for Caleb Bowman:
  I was born in North Carolina, July 19, 1807.  Lived with my father till I was in my twenty-fourth year, when I went to Indiana.  I was married to Elizabeth Crye, March 18, 1832 in Bartholomew County, Indiana.  I then started out to visit my father in Missouri; worked at the Salt Works on Mud River; hired to a man to go to New Orleans on the boat; on my return I contracted the measles.  Landed at Cairo, and though very sick, walked all the way to father's.  Uncle Tom Spencer was called and pronounced me in danger.  I was placed over a kettle of boiling water and spicewood, and then put to bed.  It was March before I was able to be around.  As soon as able, 
I left for Illinois and subsequently lived for varying periods as follows: 
In Champaign and Tazewell Counties, Ill., Howard and Tippecanoe Counties, Indiana; thence to Richland County, Wis.  Moved thence in August, 1855 to Iowa.  The June following, returned to Wisconsin.  Back to Indiana in 1859, 
and returning to Wisconsin in 1861.  I have since lived alternately in the counties of Eau Claire and Richland.  Am now, March 1887, in Richland...
  During my residence of something over eleven years in Illinois, I was a 
member of the Methodist Church.  Upon going to Indiana, I joined Christian Church and since then have been an elder in that church.  As for other positions, I have been a member of the town board and chaplain of the Grange Lodge.
  My brothers, Joshua, William and John, and sister, Celia, were all born in North Carolina, Burke County.  Celia married Drury Wills...
  Now to my own children:  Spicey Ann, born in Indiana, April 21, 1833; Joseph S., born in Champaign Co., Ill; John and Jonathan will furnish you the required information in their own cases.

[Signed] Caleb Bowman
    West Lima WI,      March 1887


Children of Caleb Bowman and Elizabeth Crye

  1)  Cynthia, b 2/3/1836, IND, d 5/21/1843.
  2)  Spice, b 4/21/1838, Columbus, IND, m/ William Alvord.
  3)  Joseph S., b 2/19/1839 m/Mary Sayers
  4)  John G., b 10/26/1842 Tazewell Co. IL, m/ Mina Randolph.
  5)  Elizabeth, b 4/27/1844 d 10/30/1867.
  6)  Jonathan C., b 10/18/1846, Howard County, IND, m/ Eliza Vandyke.
  7)  Catherine, b 6/21/1849, d 10/30/1850.


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Wisconsin Cryes


 Chippewah County WI, Platt book 1888, list of owners and townships they owned property in. Alex Crye, township 28, N. Range 8 W





 Here it is, the next issue and the questionnaire that I said I would be sending for all to fill out.  You can make plenty of copies to complete your family tree that you are aware of.  Please take the time to work on these and send them to me.  I have heard from many of you, so I know you will want each line as complete as possible.
Thank you for your time.

Letters to the Editor


Dear Ms. Green,
     I enjoyed your newsletter a lot.  Keep 'em coming, it was so interesting.  If you have a few more left, could you please send three of them out to my sons and ex-husband?  Please add them to your mailing list as they would enjoy them like I did.
Ms. Crye

Ms. Green:
         It is good to hear from you and yes, I did get your post.  I do have a question.  Does anyone have any information on our relationship to the "tribe of dog" of the Cherokee Nation?  My grandmother passed away when I was 7 years old and she was the only one I know of who may have been able to really tell the connection.  My wife also has Cherokee blood from the "tribe of coon", however this connection seems lost too.

     I am really looking forward to the next newsletter, you are doing a great job!.  If I can be of any help, I will try to do what I can.  Oh yes, are there any Crye's left on the Isle of Mann?  I was talking to an O'Malley who said that the people of Mann were either fisherman or pirates, I wonder which our ancestors were?


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Please send all responses for queries to
Anita Green
1555 Lewis Street,
Cleveland, TN  37311      or <a href="">send me e-mail</a>
I will pass them along to the researchers.

1. N.F. CRYE, married Lydia Mills in Tulare County, CA December 24, 1875.
  What family does he belong to and what are the children's names?  Will    probated in Tulare County  March 1, 1889.

2.    Looking for any descendants from Elisha or Elihu CRYE who came to Blount   County about 1820 and are buried in the Williamson Cemt.

3.   Searching for parents of Thomas CRYE (1858 - 1926) who married Elizabeth   HANNAH (1868 -1929).  Both are buried in Avon Cemetery, NY.

4.   Seeking information of David CRYE who married Hettie FUTCH, March 13,   1874 in Scott County MS.

5.   Australia Crye's.  Elizabeth Catherine Corkill, chr 1833 Jurby IOM, mother was   Eliza CRYE, father John CRYE.  Eliza had a sister Ann who also came to   Australia, but cannot find out when.  Do you connect with this family.

6.   Joseph CRYE from IOM, owned a farm in Jurby Parish in 1643.  The farm    belonged to Gibbon McCray in 1515.  Are you a descendant from this Joseph   CRYE?  Where is additional information located?  Have you heard that the   name was origonally McCray or McCrie and possibly shortened?

7.   Interested in Margaret CRYE who married Thomas WALKER.  Also, Sarah   CRYE, who married Andrew WALKER.  (possibly Walker brothers married   Crye sisters) Andrew and Sarah (Crye) Walker had a daughter, Elizabeth   Walker who married James Newell Houston.

8.   Seeking parents of Melissa CARDEN, mother of Rebecca Jane CASH who    married Joseph Henderson CRYE.